What is your best trade?
When I started out I was a dumb like most new traders and I made huge
bets on Intel
Corporation, swinging out short and long every few days. After a
number of months I racked up several thousand dollars profit.
What was your
worst trade?
Intel Corporation. I did not follow a stop order or my intuition
telling me to cut my losses (Clue: When your stop is hit and
your intuition is telling you to get out, RUN!) and I lost several
thousand dollars—about ¾ of my account, within a week. It
took me a few more years to figure out what a stop loss was and the
importance of following them.
What is a
stop loss?
Your “I was wrong point”. In your “thesis of where
the stock is going”, your stop loss is the point where you say,
“Uh-oh! I screwed up. Guess it wasn't going that direction after
all. Let me keep my losses at 1% of my trading capital so I have money
to trade another day”. This mentality is the hallmark of a
professional trader. (That last sentence is worth a thousand dollars.)
What else do
you do for a living?
I teach at a community college and run a small private psychotherapy
practice in Asheville, NC—Asheville
Counseling.
Will your
counseling sessions through Asheville Counseling help me trade?
Probably, but if I were you I wouldn't waste my money. Your hard-earned
dollars and time would be better spent studying the markets and
learning to trade. Counseling is good for some mental disorders and to
some degree would help you get your head around some of the faulty
beliefs you have regarding stop loss placement and trading
expectations, but I would suggest my mentoring
services instead or any mentoring services. Experience and making
money in the markets is the best teacher.
At one time I had this
fantasy that I would do intensive psychotherapy groups for traders and
during sessions help them uncover their hidden beliefs that caused them
to lose money. Then after I started making money I realized my logic
was flawed: The greatest thing I learned about trading was not
psychological, per se, but just learning how to trade. I went from a
losing trader to a break even trader almost overnight when I started
managing risk. Then over the next couple of years I developed the
strategy that I teach others. It was not the psychological game that I
thought it was. It was just pure misinformation on my part and my own
over zealousness that caused me to over leverage myself.
That being said, I have
considered offering workshops for participants interested in both
services, something tells me there is a market for this service. The
first would teach trading and the second would be an optional
psychotherapy group. This would keep costs down and allow a certain
camaraderie between members in the psychotherapy group; the
identification with other traders that are struggling with the same
psychological issues could be helpful.
On this note, I would be wary of any psychotherapist offering to "cure"
your psychologically-related trading issues or charging some
astronomical amount of money for this service. Therapy normally runs
between $50 and $150 an hour depending on the therapist and where you
live, and group psychotherapy is usually $25 to maybe $75 an hour per
person. I charge $100 and $25 respectively.
How can
mentoring help me?
It can cut down the time it takes to learn the ropes.
Why should I
hire you to be my mentor?
Now that is like giving the wolf directions to the hen house...
First of all, I am doing
this to make money. That is it. I do realize that for many people this
is an expensive proposition and I will do my utmost to teach you the
proper way to trade; it is up to you to do the rest.
I am a good teacher. This
is what I do, and have been doing for many years, for a living. My
movement into trading education is a recent endeavor, but my experience
teaching people, both didactically and experientially, is extensive. I
purposefully waited until I started making money consistently before
starting this business. I think that you will find my techniques and
clarity useful to help you start trading or to help you become more
profitable.
I was once talking to
another trader who had spent years, like me, learning this business.
During our conversation I noted that the one thing I wished I had had
was a mentor. He wholeheartedly agreed. If you haven't had a mentor,
once you learn how to trade, you will wish you had. It makes the
process so much easier.
How often
should I work with you?
It is up to you. You can consult with me over the phone although I
prefer face to face; in fact, I would rather take a weekend off and
visit the city you live in, if it is relatively close, to meet with
your for an hour or two in person rather than try to do this over the
phone. At any rate, my prices are rather inexpensive since you pay by
the hour. At the rates I charge you can consult with me, go out and
trade and come back later for further clarification. For many people a
few hours of face to face or some group guidance every few weeks or
every couple of months will be all they need.
Why is
mentoring so expensive?
I base my prices on the competition and the length of time it took me
to learn the business. There is also the reality of profit potential
for investors—this fuels the escalated prices which are all to
common in this business. Additionally, you get what you pay for.
Why didn't
you have a mentor?
When I started trading the only services I found were for thousands of
dollars. Maybe I was looking in the wrong places or maybe there were
just not that many people out there; I don't know. Additionally, I
didn't have much money and I decided that I could do it all by
myself—that probably narrowed my perception of what was available.
Do
you work with people over the phone, email or through the internet?
I don't like to. None of these methods convey the subtleties
of trading very well. I like to see people I work with.
Direct questions and answers make the educational experience
worthwhile. I like to have fun at this too and interacting
directly
with people is more fun for me than just talking on the phone.
Ahhhh!
Your just trying to upsell me with your in-person methods and
lack of other options!
Believe what you want. The truth is, I really don't
like phones—they are
so disconnected. I feel the same way about email and talking
through the internet. I'm the guy that walks across the building or
drives
across town just to solve a problem or talk face-to-face, even if it is
only for five minutes. I
actually teach (counseling) through the web at my other job and,
based on my
own
experience and the feedback I get from students, this is not such a
great method. I would rather be associated with a good
educational experience than a marginal one.
Why is
there a minimum
hour teaching requirement?
Driving
cost. If you live in or come to Sylva you get my base rate.
If I have to drive to see you it costs me more so I charge
you more.
What
about if you happen to be in the city where I live?
$150
per hour. Just get in touch with me and I will let you know when I will
be in your area. I am in Asheville about once every three
weeks and
Atlanta every month or two. The other cities are more infrequent.
How can I get
this same information for free?
Ha! Go to StockCharts.com
and start reading their ChartSchool section. Next, read everything you can
get your hands on. Usually you have to pay for books and videos unless
you know someone who has them and there are always those few books you
will want to keep forever. I have a list of
books that I recommend people start out with. Investopedia
is also a good place to learn and Amazon and Trader's Library
are good places to buy books, videos, etc.
eSignal has some
good free pre-conferences to go to. If you sign up for their
newsletters every once in awhile a free 2-3 hour in-person presentation
will come to your area. The speakers are real traders and their advice
is good. Be aware that their goal is to get you to sign up for the
all-day $1200 conference and to buy their software. I have been to two
of their free presentations and both were worth the 3 hour drive from
my home and the money I spent on food, a hotel, etc. I will be going to
their additional free conferences in the future (I'm still cheap!).
I have also had good luck
learning from in-person groups which I found online. Recently I found
an Investors
Business Daily and an options group in Atlanta—I wish I had
thought to look for these years ago. Yahoo! Groups and Meetup are good places to go when looking for
in-person trading groups. The cost at both of the groups I go to is
nominal ($5 to help pay the room rent). Both are well worth the 3 hour
drive to Atlanta, hotel, etc. Nice people these traders. Intelligent,
good conversation.
How can I
learn how to trade in less time than it took you?
Everyone learns in their own time. It takes as long as it takes.
Besides mentoring, here is a key that is worth a million dollars: Don't
risk your whole account on a trade! Risk only 1% no matter how small
your trades have to be. I spent 6 years and lots of money to learn that
lesson.
Realistically I would
plan on at least a few years to fine tune your strategy and become
consistently profitable although I have heard of people who did it in 6
months or less. It depends on how much help you have from other traders
and how quick you learn. I was a slow learner.
How much do
you make trading?
My account is still small, under three thousand dollars. I am still
building it back up from the damage I did overtrading. From 1999 to
2006 I dropped $30,000 as a losing trader. "Tuition," they call it.
At this point I had an
epiphany—actually I just realized the importance of not
over-leveraging myself. I started out again three years ago
with $30 (yes, thirty dollars) in a forex account with OANDA. I made some
mistakes in 2006 and 2007 then essentially eliminated these two years
losses with my gains in 2008 (up 50% for the year). In 2009 I
finished with over 60% in gains and 2010 has yet to close.
Wish me luck!
So this service is
actually to help you build your own account back up.
Exactly! I am selling out.
Until recently, I
purposefully avoided committing significant capital to my trading
account because I burned myself so many times. When I opened the OANDA
account three years ago I made a commitment to myself that until I was
consistently profitable I would risk very little cash until I learned
to trade.
Now it is obvious to me,
because of the returns I have had month after month, that it is time to
start adding more funds. Currently I am committing about 1/4 of my
paycheck each month to my trading accounts and offering this service to
grow my nest egg faster.
In a few years (or sooner
hopefully) I will have enough capital so that I don't have to work a
full-time job. At this point my mentoring business will probably go by
the wayside and I will offer all-day or weekend trading workshops
instead.
What happens if you
can't make money off this business venture?
I will have had fun
trying. If nobody wants mentoring services I will start charging for
some of the "advanced" lectures—the ones further down the list
and focus more on trading workshops.
How much does it take
to trade exclusively for a living?
Your average yearly
earnings should at least equal the salary you are accustomed to living
on, then I would sock away an additional two years of backup salary.
For example, I normally make about $50,000 per year and conservatively
I pull in about 20% per year from the markets. That would mean I need
about $350,000 to do this full-time (see why I am selling out?!).
($250,000 * .20) + ($50,000 * 2 years) = $350,000.
How much do I need to start trading or investing?
I recommend at least $10,000 or more for a stock account and $25,000 or
more for a futures or forex account, but initially you should probably
be paper trading. Hear me out before you start your banter: Write down
your entry and stop loss points on a piece of paper and figure in
accurate commissions then as you build up money open a real account;
this is actually not such a bad idea because in the time that it takes
you to save a decent amount of money to trade with you can learn how to
trade properly (I know you can open a stock account for $500 and a
futures account for $2,000, but the additional $9,500/$23,000 keeps you
from over-leveraging yourself and helps to stifle the sting of
commissions). I lost the majority of my money by being underfunded and
by trying to keep my stops too close because I was underfunded.
Additionally, if commissions are too large in relation to your account
size, they will destroy your small account's profits. Also, if you have
less than $25,000 you are not allowed to day trade stocks in
the United States because of the FINRA day trade rule. That means you will only be
able to day trade futures, forex or stock markets in other countries.
Who are these
FINRA guys?
FINRA, the Financial Industry Regulatory Authority, is the "broker
cops". FINRA is the new name for the agency which used to be called the
National Association of Securities Dealers (NASD). Although usually
associated with the government, FINRA is actually a private corporation
that works for brokerage houses (Merrill Lynch, Goldman Sachs,
etc.) with a wink and a nod from the government. They also contract
with the New York Stock
Exchange (NYSE), the National Association of Securities Dealers Automated
Quotations (NASDAQ) and other organizations related to the markets.
I only have
a few ____ (hundred, thousand, etc. dollars)! Where can I start
trading!?!
Well, if you are going to
trade small amounts you will probably want a "mini" forex account until
you build up some real capital. Alternatively you could day trade
futures, but I don't recommend that unless you have been consistently
successful paper trading futures for awhile (like 2-3 months). You will
need $5,000, at least, for a good futures day trading account (and that
is pushing it).
On the other hand, you
can get a good mini forex account with OANDA (no, I don't get any money or kickbacks from
them) and fund the account with as little money as you wish. Every
other forex/stock/futures broker I have looked at plays games with
trade size requirements, that makes your risk too large. Trust me, I
have checked everywhere. The say “mini-account”, but you
are forced to place really, really tight stops because their minimum
trade size is too large, almost always $1/pip or tick. Additionally,
these brokers do not make it easy to figure out their contract
parameters and you must ask very specific detailed questions to get
this information, if they even answer.
OANDA is the only broker
I have found which has a true fractional account. (I know about ShareBuilder, nadex.com
(HedgeStreet) and some of the mini-lot brokers. Go examine your risk
using a realistic 1% stop loss and the actual cost for end-of-day
trading with them. You need a much larger account than their minimums
to safely control risk.) At best ShareBuilder might be good for
longer-term investing, but why don't you just go trade in a smaller
priced stock?
Trading with a very small
size will allow you to have proper stop loss placement and you will not
get wiped out when you are wrong. If you want to trade forex with
someone other than OANDA I would recommend $25,000 or more.
Be aware that it is best to start out trading daily or weekly charts
and then move onto intraday charts as proficiency increases. Brokers
talk of 95% failure rates for day traders. It is very, very difficult
to start out with the Ferrari when you don't know how to drive. Don't
worry, there is enough “action” in end-of-day (EOD) trading
to satisfy your yearning for speed.
How often do
you lose money?
I have never officially examined it, but I suspect about 50% of my
trades don't work out. It may be 40% or 60%, but it is somewhere around
there.
This is an aspect of the
markets that it took me years to understand and that most people cannot
fathom: You will lose money about half the time and you can still make
millions. The way that you do it is by cutting your losers (keep your
stops at 1%) and by letting your winners run (hold on to them as long
as you can). Then your winnings make up for your losses.
This sounds
like gambling.
That is why they call it “the game” in the financial
industry. The entire world's economy is just a big game to a lot of
greedy, rich players. I love it!
Do you use
fundamental analysis or technical analysis?
Both, but I am primarily a technical trader. I use fundamental market
analysis in a sense, as at times I pay rigorous attention to the news
on Bloomberg, NPR and CNBC. I often trade
off news events which I believe will shift stocks or currencies for
nice moves. Other than this I do little fundamental analysis.
Do you have any
recommendations for methods that utilize the news for trading?
Yes, but understand that
I do not use a news trading method per se. My use of the news is to
give me an overall feel for the direction of the market, then I simply
trade in that direction. David S. Nassar's book, How to Get Started in Electronic Day Trading Home
Study Course has a very good chapter on trading the news. This
is a good place to start. Be sure and get the Home Study Course
version, ISBN 007135266X, not the regular text with a similar title.
How much time
do you spend trading?
Anywhere from 2-3 minutes to 45 minutes per day. No kidding. I do not
do much technical analysis other than monitoring positions I am in and
putting on new positions. Since I am often nearly fully invested I just
take money off when a stop is hit or take profits when I feel like a
trade has had a nice run. Honestly, most of the time I spend 10 minutes
or less per day trading. No joke.
My girlfriend likes to
watch me trade every now and then, at times she has said, “Oh,
you're just buying it when it goes down a little. That's easy. Anyone
can do that.” She does not realize how long it took me—8
years, to make it look so easy.
You will spend a
tremendous amount of time learning about the markets to become
successful at this business.
What is the difference
between trading and investing?
This is funny. Before I
understood what trading was I thought it was risky and bad, and now
that I am making money I see it as the only way to approach the
markets. Investing is usually thought of as something safe and long
term, but as most investors, or wannabe investors, learn it is anything
but safe. Investors usually get their proverbial "head handed to them"
if they stay in the market to long. A long running joke amongst
"traders" occurs when a trader holds a position too long: Others soon
begin jokingly referring to him as an investor.
Do you have any
recommendations for resources on taxes?
Yes, a good accountant
and a copy of The
Tax Guide for Traders by Robert Green. After I got this book I
grilled my accountant, Mr. Harvey Jenkins, with questions to make sure he
was taking advantage of all the tax benefits I was entitled to, he was.
At the end of the session he commented that it had been a good test. Be
aware that tax law is constantly changing and even though Green's book
was published in 2004, my accountant pointed out a few areas of law
that had recently changed. Fortunately, Robert Green keeps updates to
trader and investor tax law on his web
site.
Is there
anyone else on your staff?
No. Currently, just me. Although the trading goddess will probably
accompany me if I come to speak.
What time
frame do you trade? Intraday? Daily? Weekly? Monthly?
I do not do much day trading although I have in the past. I find that
end-of-day trading works better for my schedule and my lifestyle. I
will put positions on for a swing trade (3-5 days) and may leave it on
for weeks depending on how the market acts, so technically sometimes I
am a position trader. I am usually in and out of the market within a
few days to, rarely, a month or more. I like to get the money and run.
When do you
trade?
Normally about 6-7pm each day. I usually trade the forex market and I
wait until Reuters pumps out its data to Metastock before I
trade. Before I bought Metastock I would put my trades on about 4:30pm
or 5:00pm. When I trade the stock market I do so near the closing bell.
In a nutshell what is the
method you use?
I use divergence and convergence in RSI
along with trend lines to determine direction, paying particular
attention to double bottoms/tops in RSI and price. Then I enter on pullbacks
and on breakouts from chart
patterns in the direction of the trend. When I day trade I don't
pay as much attention to the overall trend and I primarily utilize
chart patterns for short, quick moves in the market. For day trading I
primarily use 8 hour and 4 hour charts, but if I am watching the
computer like a hawk I will trade off 1 hour, 15 minute and 5 minute
charts.
Aren't you worried that if you give away your method
people won't want your service?
No. Some people will figure it out for free and if they can great! But
for most people it helps to pay someone, even if only for occasional
guidance because the learning curve is so steep. The truth is I can
repeat my method over and over again to you and it will still probably
take you a few months of doing it before you feel comfortable trading
on your own. Then maybe a few more months of trading, if you are lucky
and a quick learner, before you are profitable. In fact, the trading
goddess (who has a high IQ) was with me recently and as I was
explaining another chart pattern to her she finally got it, "Wow, this
is hard! I've got a lot to learn." She has spent the last three weeks
reading trading literature and watching me put on and take off trades
at the end of the day.
Think about it, the fact
that 95% of day traders wash out and the numerous horror stories I'm
sure you have heard about traders wiping out their life savings tells
me there is a very good market for my services.
Will your
method work for me intraday since you aren't a day trader?
Oh yeah! There is no problem there. I don't like to day trade, that
does not mean I cannot day trade. I actually have a medical
condition—some intermittent neck pain, that crops up when I sit
or focus for long periods of time. As a result I have developed trading
techniques which allow me to work lightly if I need to.
If I could truly trade
the way I wanted, I would spend many hours day trading, but as it turns
out—and maybe for the better, the methods I have developed to
accommodate my minor physical complaints is just what most end-of-day,
working traders want. My methods also allow me a great deal of time to
do things other than watch the markets like yoga, meditation, vacation,
etc. I prefer teaching trading over trading to be quite honest. (The
same thing happened with therapy: I prefer teaching therapy over doing
therapy with clients.)
Will your
method work for investors or longer-term traders?
Yes. Although you may have to "trade" more often than you have been
taught is correct by the media or your own belief system. (Sure, I know
about Warren Buffett—he holds companies forever
and if you want to use his methodology, you need to go study his
methods. A number of good books have been written about him, but be
aware that Buffett does not just buy and hold various companies as most
people think. Besides value investing, Buffett uses a variety of very
advanced trading methods in many, many different markets. Here is a good article outlining some of his
strategies.)
Why would I have to trade
more often if I am an investor?
Because the average run
of a stock is only six to eighteen months. Let me say that again, the
average time that a stock moves up providing you profits on your money
is usually only 6 to 18 months. Think about that for a moment. In
other words, even if you have your money invested for a year, you are
taking a chance since some stocks only move for half-a-year and if you
leave your stocks invested indefinitely you are taking a huge chance
because on average, the maximum run you will achieve is only 18 months.
That is unless you are willing to wait for another economic
cycle—holding through bear market after bull market after bear
market. Do not be confused, economic prosperity (bull markets) always
results in economic decline (bear markets).
And think about what the
6-18 month time period means if you are invested in a mutual fund: If
your mutual fund was truly "trading" correctly—as you are paying
them to, the money manager would be getting in and out of positions
fairly regularly and going to cash periodically when he saw
the beginnings of a bear market. But unfortunately, and my heart goes
out to you, many people lose tons of money in their mutual fund during
bear markets. Ugh! Then they get scared at the bottom of an
economic cycle and pull their funds because they did not know the
"mutual fund game" was for the extra long term...
So how do I adapt your
method to longer-term investing?
Trade off monthly and
weekly charts using the same techniques I teach, then use dailys to
fine tune your entry; nearly all trading methods from any teacher are
readily adaptable to any time frame. You will also want to read about
economic cycles—this is very important; in fact, all traders
should be familiar with this information. You can get a basic
understanding of the various cycles which influence the market in the
works of (yes, buy all of them):
• Short-term Trading In The New Stock Market by
Toni Turner—Toni
clarifies the cyclical nature of the market in chapter 5; also pay
attention to the cycle chart on page 88.
• Jim Cramer's Real Money: Sane Investing in an Insane
World by Jim Cramer—Jim goes into detail about how
the interest rate cycle affects which stocks you should buy and sell in
chapter 5; pay particular attention to the chart on page 115.
• Stochastics, Cycles and RSI by George Lane—This is the book that made me
understand the market. Lane explains cycles purely from a technical
perspective in this work.
• Stochastics
for the Serious Trader by George Lane—The video
clarifies the material in Stochastics, Cycles and RSI. You
must have both to understand how Lane tweaks stochastics; he is a good
teacher.
• Elliott
Wave Principle: Key to Market Behavior by A.J. Frost and Robert Prechter—Although
I do not use elliott wave in my trading, you probably should have a
firm foundation in this method; it is used by many, many successful
investors (including Dan Zanger).
Do you use candlesticks?
Yes and no. I use
candlestick charts because they allow me to see price action better,
but I do not use candlestick patterns in the traditional sense as I do
not find them that useful. If you are interested in candlesticks I
would recommend Japanese Candlestick Charting by Steve Nison.
What trading
programs do you use?
Oh, this is a nightmare! I spent years trying to figure out how to do
it for free or really cheap. Currently I use Metastock End-Of-Day and Amibroker
Professional with free end-of-day data from Yahoo (Amibroker has a
plug-in for this). I don't think I will be buying any more trading
programs as these two do everything I need. If I had it to do all over
again I would have probably just bought Metastock Professional and been done with it.
Metastock is
expensive. Do you have any other recommendations?
Get the end-of-day version ($500) and use your broker for
real time charts. Use QuoteTracker for intraday and StockCharts.com or Yahoo for long
term. Use DailyFX
charts for forex—they are pretty good, but be aware that they
will "reset" your saved charts on your browser every few weeks and you
will have to redo them. Amibroker is a wonderful platform if you have a
real time data feed, but if you need to buy an EOD or a real time forex
feed for Amibroker, Metastock EOD is probably a better deal along with
your forex broker and DailyFX. GFT has great forex charts, but use “live
stops” with them—as you should with all brokers, and fund
your account with plenty of money; they say mini account, but for
proper stop placement in forex using EOD trading you probably need
$25,000 or more. I have also looked into TradeStation,
but it was overkill for my trading style. I took TradeStation's $99
introductory course once; it is worth the money.
Are you a
Metastock or Reuters representative?
No.
Are you an
Amibroker representative?
No.
Are you a
representative of or connected with any brokerage?
No.
Do you get
any kickbacks, monetary or otherwise, from any of the products or books
you recommend?
No. My paycheck comes from the teaching I do at a community college
with the State of North Carolina, my full-time job. I teach human
services, basically counseling at the 2-year community college level. I
make a little money in my private psychotherapy practice—Asheville
Counseling, and I make money in my brokerage accounts which I trade
for myself. That is it. The only other money I get is from my mom, dad
and grandfather for my birthday.
Are these
really questions people sent in to you?
No, but some of them have been asked of me by people interested in the
markets. The others are questions I deem important to trading and
questions I expect people will ask me in the future. The trading
goddess also grills me with questions and you can thank her for some of
these.
What broker
do you use?
OANDA and Scottrade. I have
used Interactive
Brokers when I traded futures; they are good.
What markets
do you trade?
Primarily forex and the stock markets. I have traded futures and
options in the past.
Do you teach about
options?
Not much. I have never
had much luck with them. Option methods require either a quick
expansion of price, something I do not focus on enough in my trading to
make them profitable, or lots of time and money, in the case of writing
calls and puts. If you would like to focus on options I would recommend
that you find a good options mentor (sorry I don't know of any) and
that you paper trade them before putting any real money at risk.
That being said I can
recommend a few books that have been enlightening on the subject:
• Mastering the
Trade by John
F. Carter—John talks about the way he uses options in chapter
16. This book should be on your shelf if you are a trader.
• Get Rich With
Options by Lee Lowell—These are some of the most lucid
writings on using options I have come across. If I had the money I
would definitely be putting these methods to work.
• Trading Commodities & Financial Futures
by George Kleinman—In this work Kleinman talks
about options on futures. Again, if I had the money...
• The 5 Day
Momentum Method by Jeff Cooper—This
book is short, only 60 pages, and in it Jeff outlines a method for
non-day traders. In chapter 6 he briefly talks about adapting options
to this method.
•
Additionally, Dan Zanger briefly mentions using
deep-in-the-money options as an alternative to trading large amounts of
stock in some of the articles that have been written about him. If I
was trading size I would definitely investigate his method more.
What about mutual funds?
My knowledge of mutual
funds is limited as I do not invest in them. What I can tell you is
that the mutual fund manager is the most important aspect of any fund;
I would thoroughly research a manager's track record before I
put any money to work with them. Also, be aware that funds like to
bring in well-known managers who then leave after the fund is
established. I personally think this is kind of slimy. A good manager
combined with the correct market direction is the only way to make
money in a fund. William O'Neil of Investors Business
Daily made an informative audio CD called How You Could More Than Double Your Money in Mutual
Funds that has some good advice for mutual fund investors. If
you have a great deal of money and don't want to manage your own
account, you may want to consider a hedge fund.
What is a hedge fund?
A hedge fund is
essentially a very small mutual fund run specifically for high net
worth individuals. Because of their legal structure, unlike mutual
funds, hedge funds can go long or short and trade in many, many
different markets. Often portrayed in a negative light by the news
media, this is a definite opportunity I would persue if I had money
that I didn't want to trade for myself. Hedge funds essentially do for
a small group of select investors what professional traders do for
their own account. Good hedge funds provide returns of 30, 50 or even a
100 percent or more per year.
If you want to hire a
hedge fund manager you need to be an "accredited investor", meaning
have a net worth of $1,000,000 or more or make a minimum of $200,000
per year. Additionally corporations and even pension funds—yes
even the pension fund of the corporation you work for, frequently hire
hedge funds to trade their employees' pension money. Hedge funds are
excellent investment opportunities if checked out thoroughly. It always
strikes me as odd to see the news media or congressmen grandstanding
about how bad hedge funds are when it is very likely that they have
money invested in them directly or indirectly (through their pension
fund). A great book to to learn about these investment vehicles is The Fundamentals of Hedge Fund Management by
Daniel A. Strachman. A brief review of his book is on my Reading List page.
Thirty, fifty and a
hundred percent, that not fair! Everyone should be able to invest their
money wherever they want.
I agree, but the US
government doesn't. If you are a citizen of the United States, for the
most part, you will have to have a great deal of money to invest with a
hedge fund in this country. The government's logic is simple when you
understand the potential legal and political problems.
Recently a very bad man,
Bernie Madoff, stole a great deal of money from a number of wealthy
investors. Now think about what would happen if the government allowed
"small investors" to invest in hedge funds and a Madoff-like scandal
occurred: Instead of a difficult legal mess, the government would have
a huge political morass akin to what occurred at Enron. Imagine a
bailout for tens of thousands of investors similar to the housing
crisis. Ugh!
But I want to
invest in something that makes me money! I don't want no stinkin'
mutual fund that makes me 8-12% per year. What can I do!?!
My suggestion is that you look into managed futures, also known as
commodity pools, for a portion of your investment capital. Look for a
money manager with a good track record. Sometimes commodity pools can
be good alternatives to hedge funds for investors that do not meet
capital requirements. You want to do your due diligence and check out
the fund manager thoroughly. You had better pay attention to that last
sentence.
How do I check out a fund
manager?
I would look at their
track record first. William O'Neil says of mutual funds (and I would
apply this to all funds), that examining the last three years of
performance is very important. Funds often have a good year or two, but
it is hard to have three good years in a row unless you really know
what you are doing. Best practice requires
the fund's track record to be formally audited and some high net worth
investors will not even consider a firm that is not associated with one
of the big four accounting firms (PricewaterhouseCoopers,
Deloitte, Ernst & Young and KPMG).
After you are convinced
that the fund is making the money which it says it is, I would contact
any boards or organizations that the manager is registered with to see
if they have any "dings" on their record. Be aware that many hedge fund
managers are not required to be registered with regulators because
hedge funds are not offered to the general public. I would also check
out the accountant that manages the fund's records. CPAs have a board
that they answer too just like stockbrokers, doctors, psychologists,
etc.
Next, meet with the
manger in person, if you have not already done so. Ask lots of
questions. I wouldn't work with anyone who didn't "feel right" to me
and do not ever feel bad about asking questions. The book I
mentioned earlier, The Fundamentals of Hedge Fund Management by
Daniel A. Strachman, is a good place to start to help you formulate
questions. If you have a close
personal friend or relative in the finance field ask them to accompany
you to the meeting or at least to help you formulate a list of
questions (offer to pay your friend/relative for their time).
You will also want to
understand the fund's strategy. Sometimes trading methods can be
complex, but you should at least have a basic understanding of what the
fund is doing to make money. I would walk away if I could not get my
head around their strategy; they should be able to articulate their
strategy to you in easily understandable terms. Some investors require
the manager to be very open with their records and walk away from
anyone who is not; that is OK.
What is
mutual fund timing?
Now you're talking my language. Timing mutual funds is essentially
trading them like you would do a stock or ETF. If I specifically wanted
to trade mutual funds I would read everything I could get my
hands on by people who had done this and consistently made good
returns. I have only come across two mutual fund "traders" in my
studies, but this does not mean there are not many, many more out
there: Steve Lescarbeau who is interviewed in Stock Market
Wizards: Interviews with America's Top Stock Traders by By
Jack D. Schwager and Gary Smith who wrote How I Trade
for a Living.
If you really want to time mutual funds like a professional money
manager you are going to have to learn the business like you would if
you were becoming a professional stock trader. And you probably know
what I am going to say now. Before you put any money at risk you need
to be consistently profitable on paper first. I am not sure what the
risk parameters are for mutual fund timers and if they use a 1% stop
loss or not—this is not my business.
I personally would look at lots of randomly-selected historical mutual
fund charts and go through these using my method over and over until I
could time (trade) them correctly before I put any money at risk. It
also might be worthwhile to invest in some:
• Back testing software (I am not sure
what is best here. Metastock is worth looking into, but I would also
look at what others are using)
• Training in the back testing software
• A good mentor
Yes, my stock trading method would be a good place to start to
understand fund entry and exit, but you would also be smart to look
into specific mutual fund trading methods. Like I said, read everything
you can get your hands on.
Do you
recommend any advisory services?
Yes, your own knowledge. Beyond that Tom Keene on Bloomberg is a wonderfully intelligent newscaster
that knows more about the markets than most traders. Planet Money
is a good NPR
podcast for learning broad market basics. Jim Cramer
is awesome. Don't listen to the idiots who don't understand his
knowledge base. My favorite place to go for stock picks is Dan
Zanger owner of Chartpattern.com—he
does a weekly radio show and usually mentions a good pick or two. Dan's newsletter is a great deal; if I had to pay
money for one item for stock picking it would be this.
Will you
speak to my investment club/group for free?
Maybe if you are local or if I happen to be in the area. Travel is
expensive... I make money in the
market, but it is not yet my ATM machine. Give me a call and talk to me
and throw me your proposal. I base my decision to speak on
the size of your group and your funding.
What kind of sales
pitch are you going to give me or my group if we have you speak?
I hate sales pitches so I
can promise you it will be short and sweet: I'll put out some business
cards, say the name of my web site and answer any questions people have
about my service or my credentials. My knowledge base sells me very
well; I don't need to do much pitching.
Will you
speak at my trading conference for free?
No. I am offering this service primarily to be paid. My entire purpose
of this web site is to fund my trading account by creating interest in
my services.
Do you fly?
Only if it is out of the country and I am being paid well. I don't like
airplanes. Trains are OK.